Never say never because it just means that you don't remember when..
I've heard it said that NEVER has a Cape Verde storm hit South Florida from "that angle" as a defense that Ivan will go elsewhere.
Sorry Charley but... we just don't have an accurate record.
Our records only go out soooo far.
Our satellite archives only go back to the 1960s.
Many years before there was the year of 1835.. a year that goes down as the year from Hurricane Hell in Florida and throughout most of the Carribean.. Caribbean?? Hmmn
Well no matter how many R's or B's it had hurricanes.
People predicted natural disasters.
Halley's Comet in those days was taken as seriously as the National Hurricane Center for weather forecasting.
And..it was indeed..weather of the wierdest.
In 1835 a storm hit Miami from the South at what angle I'm not sure because its before any storms that Dr. Landsea has studied... before Unisys... maybe someday they will both get around to it.
It tore up the Mangroves on what is now Brickell Avenue and South Bayshore Drive.
It tore a whole through to make Bear Cut near Virginia Key where hurricane researchers study hurricanes. Maybe one day they will look out their window.. get inspired and study on the Great 1835 Hurricane and see if it's track is/was and will be similar to Hurricane Ivan.
Maybe.. Possibly.. maybe someday.
Here are some tidbits I found online... something to think upon.
And..again to you know who for copying that page from the book from the library that is sitting on your desk and faxing a copy of it to me.. appreciate it greatly.
Best Wishes.. take care Bobbi :)
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1835 – The Key West Inquirer had been publishing only a year when this undated hurricane swept through all the Keys onto the mainland. The lightship Florida at Carysfort was severely damaged, but repairable.
http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/docs/k/keys27.htm
The first hurricane of any intensity of which there is any record, occurred on the 15th, 16th and 17th of September A . D. 1835. The Enquirer, a newspaper published in Key West at that time, in describing it says: "We remember seeing sometime since the prognostications of an officer in the English army or navy who predicted that the visit of Halley's comet now expected, would cause the year 1835 to be remarkable for the frequency of gales and other atmospheric phenomena, and whether it may be considered a strange coincidence or not, we cannot say, but there has certainly been an undue number of severe storms, tornadoes, gales, etc., for the last few years."
In 1909 Halley's comet again visited us, and in 1909 and 1910 two of the severest hurricanes ever experienced, struck the island.
In the hurricane of 1835 the light-ship Florida, stationed near Carysfort Reef, was severely damaged, the wooden covering to her deck was partly demolished, her lanterns stove in, and her boats blown away. Twelve or fourteen large vessels were stranded on the reefs near Key West, and most of our wrecking vessels suffered much damage. An article from the pen of Mr. Stephen R. Mallory tells of the damage done to our home craft, and the courage which their masters and crews showed in the face of their losses. Ile says: "In considering the extent and violence of the late gale, the severest with which our coast was ever visited, we dwell with satisfaction upon the courage of our people for the preservation of lives and property. In the ordinary course of maritime pursuits the loss of all the masts of a vessel, her boats, anchors, cables, etc., is considered an event of some consequence, and generally claims most of the time and undivided attention of her crew to repair damages, but the rapidity and apparent ease with which much greater disasters were overcome by the wreckers, when upon their celerity depended the fate and property of the shipwrecked, offers us another proof of what man may accomplish when all his energies are brought into action, stimulated by powerful motives and under the guidance of sound judgment. One of the schooners was driven by a gale upon a bank, which, when the wind had somewhat abated, was left high and dry, but her persevering master with eleven men actually cut a canal two hundred yards long, and in twenty-four hours after it was commenced the ship was again at sea and obtained a cargo. Another one lost both her masts, all her anchors, cables, boats and rigging, but the conviction that he had nothing else to lose seems to have aroused her stout-hearted master to greater exertion, and with the aid of two small jury-masts, and an old gun for an anchor, he succeeded in reaching a wreck and relieving her of a large and valuable cargo. Such exertions Eire worthy of commendation, and verily they will meet with their reward."
At that time there were not over seven or eight hundred people in Key West. They had no telegraphic communication with the outside world, and the mails were about a month apart.
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More info on 1835 Hurricane Season.. was the storm that came in from the south over the Keys originally the one that was referred to as the "severe gale" on 9/3 ? The storm could have traveled over Haiti or stalled out south of Cuba before moving slowly up over the Keys and north across Florida. Please note that in the above report it mentions the storm as being a slow moving storm.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/sketches/hurricane.html
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NOTE... if this is accurate there was a storm in Texas at the same time.. a set up meteorologically hard to explain but I imagine anything is possible. "1835 SEP 13 BRO 1 Center struck south of Brownsville. "
http://www.wxresearch.com/thurlist.htm
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LA Hurricane?
My gosh there were hurricanes everywhere. Here they were worried about Halley's comet and they should have been worried about Halley's Hurricanes
1835
The only hurricane ever recorded in Los Angeles strikes on August 23, and obliterates the settlement there. "Proxy" evidence in tree rings and lake sediments also suggests 1835 was an El Niño year.
"http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elnino/reach/1835.html"
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http://mywebpages.comcast.net/larrylights/Florida/ponceinlet.htm
"The 1835 lighthouse was completed, the lamps installed and the keeper moved in, but the oil for the lamps never arrived. In October of 1835, a hurricane struck, severely undermining the 45 foot tall brick tower. Before repairs could be carried out, the Second Seminole War started in December of 1835. In an attack on the area, the Seminole Indians climbed the lighthouse, smashed all of the glass in the lantern, set fire to the wooden stairs and stole the lamp reflectors. In April, 1836, the never used tower fell into the ocean."
"John Rodman, Collector of Customs for St. Augustine, chose a site on a 12-foot high dune on the south side of the Inlet, and Winslow Lewis completed the forty-five foot tall brick tower by February, 1835, at a cost of $7,494, including the installation of 15 of his lamps with 16-inch silvered, parabolic reflectors. William H. Williams, a local pilot, captain, and son of a prominent local plantation owner, was selected as the lighthouse keeper, and he moved into the new keeper's quarters. However, oil for the lighthouse never arrived, and the lamps were never lit.
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http://www.ponceinlet.org/history-firstlighthouse.html
In October, 1835, a hurricane struck, washing away the keeper's quarters and undermining the foundations of the lighthouse enough to cause it to lean. Keeper Williams and his family abandoned the area and moved back to his father's plantation. In an attack by Seminole Indians on December 26, 1835, ignited the Second Seminole War in Florida. The Indians climbed the lighthouse, smashed all the glass in the lantern, set fire to the wooden stairs, and absconded with the lamp reflectors. The leader, Coácoochee, wore one as a headdress at the Battle of Dunlawton three weeks later. The Indians won the battle, and the entire area was abandoned. No one could come to repair the leaning lighthouse, and in April, 1836, it finally toppled into the sea. It would be more than 50 years before Mosquito Inlet would get another lighthouse.
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http://www.srh.noaa.gov/sju/hrcnhist.html
"1835, August 13 Crossed Puerto Rico in a ESE to WNW direction."
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http://www.underseas.org/docs/ray-cooliemassacre.html
As part of the continuing history of the Hillsboro Lighthouse area, an interesting shipwreck, that set back the development of Broward County by about 50 years is in the surf zone about ¾ mile N of Hillsboro Inlet. She is the Gil Blas, a Spanish brig, wrecked in 1835, during a severe hurricane.
Loaded with sugar and cigars, she was headed north from Havana when the hurricane drove her into shallow water. The captain deployed his anchors and kept her from being broken up on the beach, but she was well and truly grounded.