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Wednesday, September 06, 2017

UPDATED 11 AM CONE....CAT FIVE IRMA...TS Jose TS Katia.. WHERE DO YOU EVACUATE TO IF YOU LIVE IN FLORIDA? IS IRMA I-95 Storm Up The Coast? Models Cluster on GA, SC & NC in 5 DAY CONE


UPDATED



Special notice from the NHC that there is site is loading slowly. It is NOT down just loading very slowly. You think? And TS Katia has formed and TS Jose should go Hurricane later today possibly.

11 AM CONE NHC


Radar Image of it making a move on PR
N Coast of PR seriously in it.



Irma in Motion.


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The motion moving WNW... 
I'd say N of W to WNW currently.
Forecast to continue WNW.
Taking on PR as I type.

Continuing on with the evacuation discussion.
I-95 is not a good option.
If you drive out of FL..
...head W on I-10.
Why?


Wind probabilities now go N into VIRGINIA.
Raleigh is in it.
In fact according to NHC..


Raleigh could have winds Sunday Afternoon.
TROPICAL STORM winds.
Could being the key word.
From GA to NC odds are going up.
Along the coast.
Charleston is looking  bad at 11 AM.
That could change at 5 PM.
I still believe the 5 PM will be the reliable cone.
A lot of cities in that path.
Savannah.
Inland SC..
ALL of SC is in that map above.
Most of NC will be in map at 5 PM.
Looking better for Key West.


Note Cuba is no longer in wind probs
They are in the cone... 
...but not the wind probs.


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Mirrors the NRL map I show often.

So what do I think? It's too soon to tell if Irma will turn OFF the coast of Florida or OVER the coast of Florida. Every wobble west or nw makes a difference but remember whether it seems logical or not a hurricane can and will turn hard right and often does. The stronger the hurricane, the more it wants to pull poleward. The moment the High behind it lets up even a bit or it sees a small opening it will grab it. Yes there is a bit of an issue of Category 5 Hurricanes have a momentum going but history has taught us when they see a door opening up to go North they take it fast. Will it take it fast enough to spare South Florida? I can't say right now. I can't tell my own kids so basically I am telling you what I am telling my children and close friends. It's not easy playing chicken with a Category 5 Hurricane headed straight to a multitude of densely populated cities from Miami north to Virginia. Beyond that we are looking at DC to NYC as being impacted in some possible way from Irma should it not go out to sea. We are watching a short wave to pull it... not a strong cold front grabbing it and sweeping it out to sea as would happen later in September.  I will update around 2 PM or if anything changes. 

At the very bottom of this post I am posting info on Jose and Katia. Yeah...the K storm has formed.


The eye of the beast.
That's what the media calls it...
It's name is Irma.
It's a name we will remember...
Looking to retire young..


Still 185 MPH as of 8 AM.
Pressure down to 918 MB.
WNW at 16 MPH
Note it's picked up speed a bit.
Not much but the trend is important.


That's IRMA. 
Look long... 
..you don't see many like her.


Cone from NRL
NAVY... they go wider than NHC
Got to protect their ships.
And... NHC often lags behind a bit.
Narrower cone.


Most important part of Discussion.
From NHC below.
Please read carefully...
..as in between the lines.





 I'm going to start here and go long on MY thoughts not the NHC but based on NHC discussion and personal discussion with mets I trust greatly. The image above is the thought going through everyone's head in South Florida or even Central Florida today. If they run... where do they run to? The forecast and the flip flopping models that are currently trending East make it a harder question to answer than how to prepare for it where they live.

The problem really here is "where to go" if you leave Miami or Naples. IF you decide to evacuate where do you go? Truth is.... you can't get a flight out of town currently unless you are a millionaire, fly 1st class often or know someone with a private plane. If you want to get on the road and drive North with half of the population where after you get past the traffic jam are you going to drive? A few of my kids looked into flights.... not an easy option. Unless you made a ticket days ago. My nephew is going to visit his cousins in Seattle. He has strong survival instincts, he booked that days ago.

So look at that image above that I drew with my favorite color purple. Then I'm putting the wind probs below.


Understand that based on the discussion I showed below the NHC is not ready to move the cone away from it's previous cone based on the EURO trending right towards the GFS on it's last run. So they will wait until the next run comes in and the 5 PM cone will be more important as an indicator than the 11 AM run. They go by all the models but they put heavy emphasis on the EURO and so will the EURO continue the trend to the East or hang tight where it is. 

The EYE of this storm is huge and unless it goes over a LARGE island ...they are called the GREATER ANTILLES for a reason... then it goes UP and OVER the islands maintaining it's maximum strength and size. It just keeps on rolling WNW but at some point it turns North and where and when remain the big question. Do you want to gamble your life and stay to experience a possible brush or tango with a Category 4 or 5 Hurricane in Miami or WPB area or do you want to protect your children from that and drive North. If you drive North where do you go? 

Note Atlanta is not in the Wind Probs now.. will it be at 11 AM or 5 PM? Fayetteville is NOW in the Wind Probs. That is an indication of where the 4th and 5th day part of the Cone will be down the road.

Remember the other day when I said this was an I-95 Hurricane? It could very well be or possibly a US1 Hurricane closer to the coast will see the storm. Remember US1 goes up to Maine. I'm not saying, I'm implying this hurricane may impact a wider part of the country than just Florida. If I was living in Naples I'd feel safer but not out of the woods. If I was living in Daytona Beach I'd be thinking "Seriously? Two back to back hurricanes after we never get any?" 

You can't make this stuff......

So let's say the storm goes up I-95 or A1A and takes down all the street signs with it, signal lights and erodes a few parts of A1A along the coast. Where ever you evacuate to by car you may need to stay for more than a few days as they are not letting people back into an area until they know it it safe. So yeah you need a friend, relative or a tourist destination you want to see outside that cone. To the LEFT of the Cone probably... I'm thinking Dollywood may get a lot of traffic this week from Florida people. Most everyone I know who has asked me (a lot of people) keep asking me on North Florida as a staging area to debate where to go next ...probably Atlanta. Everyone keeps asking me on Atlanta. Last night on TWC the previous Director of the NHC said nervously (he obviously has spoken to more Miamians than me) and warned people not to just get in the car and drive to Atlanta. But if not Atlanta where? Gulfport has a lot of motel rooms...  North Carolina? Yeah in the short term we look good, but note the wind probs. They show Fayetteville in the wind probs. Is Raleigh and Rocky Mount in the 11 AM wind probs? 

The analog storms for this dangerous hurricane as of now are:

Floyd.
Matthew.
Hugo blended with Hazel.
I'm putting a lot of weight on Hazel.

Any of those hurricane tracks would take this ONTO land not a glancing blow at the Outer Banks. And all put inland areas in the cross hairs.

So say you go to relatives up the coast... if the storm is moving in do you stay and ride it out there or travel again?

You see this is really, honestly what is going on with every person from Miami to Tampa who has texted me or messaged me on multiple social media forms of communication.

And I cannot assure them if they stay in Tampa or Miami they will be fine and only get a Cat 1 or Cat 2 hurricane. Not yet, by the time I can it's too late to leave. 

It's a gamble. You are gambling and playing chicken with an epic, once in a lifetime hurricane.

Now let's go back to the beginning. Read the previous blog  from early September ....if you have time ... it's old but the analog storms are still valid days later.


OLD MODELS
EARLY MODELS FOR IRMA

Early  models implied turns off coast of FL
Pulls North towards Carolinas.
Sometimes those early models are right.
After flip flopping models dance around.
They go back to the earlier models.
Not always but blend them.. you see?

And here we are waiting for the 11 AM to come in and trust me it's not gonna give you hard answers to those questions but the powers that be will play it very safe and cautious (as they should) in the South Florida area. Currently they are about to tell people in evacuation zones in Dade County to hit the road.

Again ................to where? To relatives who live West of I95 in Doral or Pembroke Pines? What if Irma moves West, wobbles...lunges west while just staying off shore (bounces in, bounces out) and the eye wall goes from Naples to Miami? Or Miami to Nassau... it goes over Bimini and Miami is still in the eye wall? It's a nightmare for a government official.

As Mike said on Facebook Live yesterday. He can be wrong and keep his website. I can be wrong and people will remember but most likely continue to read me. The NHC bears the weight of all of the people in the path of their storm and they have higher ups to answer to. Those good government jobs go bad when you make a big mistake and people complain. And, they sometimes can't sleep at night and when they do they sleep with the phone/laptop next to their bed setting it to the times the models come in... watching every wobble in the hurricane. 

So in 3 days we will have a better idea where this storm is going to go as in LANDFALL and how strong it really will be ... but in 3 days it will be too late to just get in the car and drive out. 

So that is the big question? You hunker down where you can and you pray. If the ceiling begins to cave in you put the kids in a closet and sit against the door. You go to a bathtub, put kids in it and sit on top of the mattress praying they stay safe. 

Flooding is less an issue here as the forward speed of the storm should keep it moving fast enough that this is not a Harvey issue... it's a WIND issue. And it's easier to run from the water than to run from the wind. At that point you need a good place to hide. If you stay in South Florida choose wisely. The house must have shutters (good ones) and then figure out which interior rooms with small windows are the safest to hunker down. Make sure you have lots of batteries and a good radio so you can follow the movements of the storm when the power goes out. And, that you can take to the bank. Unless Irma makes a FAST HARD RIGHT TURN in the Bahamas ... you will lose power.

And the reason we sat up all night listening to Bryan Norcross on the radio is ... because that is all we had. The radio and the voice of Bryan Norcross was the only show in town. We love him, he got us through it but it was the only place to go... hunkered down in the dark with the sound of the wind howling and the house being buffeted by strong winds and the voice of Bryan Norcross talking on the radio. Make sure you have a BATTERY POWERED RADIO and LOTS OF BATTERIES. 

You need batteries more than beer. Trust me.

I'll update later today with more discussion on model runs and how if at all they have changed. I will update this post at 11 AM with the new information but keeping this discussion here until the 5 PM. Even after 5 PM this information will be relevant.

Stay safe, be careful and stay informed on the storm ... don't just listen online to model talk and stay off of Facebook as your main source of info unless you are listening to Mike Live on Facebook.. a lot of Fake Weather News on Facebook... this is not a Cat 6 and it's not wiping Florida off the map. But it's going to give Floridians stories to tell for generations to come.

If I had to draw a cone I'd keep it over Florida but I'm more sure on where it is going in the long term than I am the short term. It will make a second landfall IF it makes actual landfall in Florida and it may keep going much further North than any can imagine as it takes longer for a hurricane that has been a Cat 5 for days to fall apart. Timing is going to be everything.

2nd Landfall or 1st if it stays just offshore Florida.

Anywhere from Sea Islands, Georgia to Wilmington, NC.
Special concerns from Charleston to Ocean Isle Beach.

Both my MBs may be in play. Miami Beach and Myrtle Beach.

Use the site below in multiple ways... preparation for the storm... current info. Mike has it all.



Busy 2017 Hurricane Season.


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Jose is really pumping.
Could be a hurricane now even...
....but let's stay focused on Irma.
I know a few who worry on Jose and NC
But that's way way way too soon to say.
More later.
Updating in real time.





Besos Bobbistorm
@bobbistorm on Twitter

Ps... If you leave take pictures of your home and any valuables you want to put in claims for from the Insurance companies unless you just recently updated. You will need PROOF what it looked like before the storm and what the valuables are... if you have a safe, put what you do not take with you in the safe. Document what you need to show the insurance company. Much easier today with cellphones than waiting for pictures to develop and having to buy film.










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